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  1. THE THORNY ISSUE OF TITHING

    Greetings, brother Tony,
    It has been a couple of weeks now since I first happened upon your blog site. Your in-depth research and study on idolatry, the Roman church, the antichrist and deception in the church, have provide me with additional subject matter and inspiration for a book which I have been writing since 1997 – a work of fiction commissioned by the Lord, to reach out to the “called but not chosen”, or in other words, those who have fallen away.

    I have not yet found a cause with which to disagree with you, so far, apart from the matter of tithing. I quote your own words, “The tithe is one of the most important responsibilities for the Christian”. This is where we do definitely disagree, for the following reason:
    Even IF tithing was required by the Lord in His church – and it most definitely is NOT- the tithe was an agricultural tithe, only. All other trades and professions were exempt from paying tithe. For this reason, alone, the vast majority of Christians would be exempt from paying a tithe.

    There is much more I could say on this thorny issue, but I suspect that I would be wasting my time, as indeed I already have, debating the subject with an American pastor who has written a book supporting the tithe. In my experience, albeit limited, no amount of supportive scriptural evidence will change someone’s mind once they’ve succumbed to brain washing from the pulpit.

    It has been some years since I was shown the light and delivered from this particular bondage.

    “For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.” James 2:10 Misleading anyone with wrong doctrine is a serious matter, particularly for those who are called to teach – a “stricter judgment”

    I hope many will find this liberating

    Only believe

    John

    • Hello, again, Brother John.

      Regarding the tithe being an agricultural tithe, you are talking about Old Testament tithing, when most people were farmers and husbandmen. The Bible makes it clear that the New Testament Church of Jesus Christ collected (and should collect) tithes in the way of liquid assets (money) (See Acts 4:34-37; 5:1-8). And there is absolutely no evidence that I am aware of that suggests that the trades and other professions were exempt, as you say.

      Moreover, I never said that tithing was required by the Lord; what I said was that “tithing is one of the most important responsibilities of a Christians.” The Lord Jesus never require us to tithe, but He did command us to “love one another,” and to show charity, which is love in action. Neither Judaism nor Christianity existed when Jacob made his vow to pay tithes unto God, yet he did so anyway: not in obedience to the law, or because it was an obligation imposed on him by a church, but as Genesis 28:20,21 makes clear, out of gratitude for God’s providence. God, as you know, doesn’t need our money, but others who are less fortunate do; and one way a church can support them is when individual Christians give to others as God has blessed them.

      This can be done preferably through the local church by pooling the resources of church members (which is a lot easier on individuals), or in any way the individual giver chooses. I, for instance, do not have a church home, as my family and I worship at home; yet I still pay tithes by giving to several charities, Christian ministries, and educational institutions. Combined, these entities provide services such as feeding, clothing and sheltering the homeless, providing emergency assistance, ministering to prisons, supplying the Word of God to missionaries, providing educational assistance, etc. In that way, I give back as the Lord has blessed me.

      We also mustn’t forget that the Apostle Paul used to take up a collection to be distributed to the poorer churches. He would pick up the collection when he would visit a church and then take it back with him to the Church headquarters in Jerusalem (1 Corinthians 16:1-3). Though not called a tithe per se, it nevertheless involved collecting money from church members and distributing that money to the poorer churches. It is also very important to remember that even the great patriarch Abraham paid tithes (Hebrews 7:1-9; again, before any religion had been established), as well as Levi, the son of Jacob, whose descendants are required to receive tithes rather than pay them (Hebrews 7:9,10).

      Lastly, we should not forget that in 1 Corinthians 13, the great love chapter of the Bible, the Apostle Paul admonishes us to always have Christian charity, without which our faith is nothing, though we may have every heavenly gift God can bestow upon a man. The tithe is one of the greatest acts of charity imaginable. Even if, therefore, there is evidence that certain trades and professions were exempt, as you say, from paying the tithe, it would still not deter me from paying it or suggesting that others do the same. If Christians must be commanded to show gratitude to God for His goodness and providence, or help out the less fortunate by giving some of what God has blessed us with, then the Church is in deep kimshe.

      “And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity” (1 Corinthians 13:13).

      TSM

      TSM

  2. Hi
    Re: the Sabbath the seventh day
    The Sabbath was changed from Saturday to Sunday by Constantine in A.D. 321. . We Being spiritual Jews the Ten Commandments are as relevant today as they were back in Old Testiment times. Jesus worshipped in the synagogues on Sabbath. God’s word declared that human beings would attempt to change God’s times and laws (Dan. 7:25). One way a human power could exalt itself above God would be to change the law of God. God has a day. (Rev.1:10) Isa. 58:13 – “My holy day.” The Seventh Day is the Christian Sabbath (John. 1:1-3) (Mark. 2:27, 28) Col. 1: 14-17, Gen. 2: 1-3; Ex. 20: 8-10). Christ kept the Sabbath. (Luke 4:16) John 15:10; Heb 10:7 Ps. 40-8. Christ as a Sabbathkeeper is our example. 1 Peter. 2:21) 1 Cor. 10:4. 1 John 4:17, 1 John 2:6. The Change of the Sabbath.
    The Seventh day (Saturday) is the true Sabbath made by Christ at Creation, but the first day (Sunday) is observed by many now. How did this change come about? Christ did not change the Sabbath. (Matt. 5:17-19), (Mark 2:28) (Luke 4:16) (John 15:10, Matt 24:20, Isa 42:21, Heb 13:8. God’s Seal, Sign or Mark is His Sabbath (Ex. 31:13) (Ex. 31:17) (Eze. 20:12). God Bless.

    • There is much I could say to prove my point, but I know it will only fall on deaf ears; so I will only say this. Until the (ostensive) “fall” of Communism, every day was a work day. There was no specific day of worship granted to worship the Lord. Yet even in those countries there were Christians. These people had to worship God when and where they could. Now, it is foolish to say that these were not Christians just because they couldn’t worship on the Jewish Sabbath day or even on the Christian Sabbath day, which is Sunday, because Jesus told the lady at the well that the day would come when the true worshippers of God would worship Him neither “in this mountain nor at Jerusalem…but in spirit and in truth” (John 4:21-24). It is logical to conclude that if where we would worship God is not important, then neither is when. The important thing is that we worship.

      You are wrong about “times and laws” referring to the Sabbath: Times means years, not days. In the same book of Daniel you reference, we read that the kingdom of Antichrist will last for “times, a time, and half a time”; that is three and a half years. What Daniel 7:25 is referring to is the changing of years as they concern Jesus Christ.

      Did you ever find it strange that the manner in which we refer to the years prior to Christ’s birth are in English (B.C. meaning Before Christ), but the years after his resurrection we refer to in Latin (A.D. or Anno Domini)? Don’t you think this is rather inconsistent? Why are they not both in English or both in Latin? And why “In the year of our Lord?” If the years prior to Jesus’ birth refer to Christ, why don’t the years after His ascension also refer to Him? And why in Latin? I’ll let you ponder that, if you’re so inclined.

      The important thing is this: Currently, the history and anthropology books are changing from using B.C. and A.D. to BCE (Before the Common Era) and CE (Common Era). Any reference to Jesus or God has been removed. But this is only a part of the temporary secularization of America, to take our eyes off Jesus. The Antichrist will be a Luciferian; that is, he will worship Satan; not as the fallen angel, but as the “God of Light”–Lucifer.

      Luciferians have never used B.C. or A.D., but refer to all the dates as A.L. (Anno Lucis) or In The Year of Light. In that the Bible clearly tells us that all the world will worship the Beast and the Dragon (Satan) who gave him his power (Revelation 13:3-4), then the Antichrist will definitely change the times (years) to honor his God, Lucifer.

      How do I know these things? Because I pray, read AND meditate on the Scriptures, and read the works of those who are working to enslave us. This is so much more fruitful than worrying about something so foolish as when the true Sabbath is. I guarantee that if you are not careful, one day you will highly regret wasting your time on this folly.

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